In this episode of the FinOps on Azure Podcast, we’re joined by Nicole Boyd for a grounded conversation on how organizations can mature their FinOps capabilities without rushing straight into optimization.
Drawing on her experience working with organizations at different stages of FinOps adoption, Nicole explains why many teams struggle to see results not because they lack tools, but because they try to optimize before establishing strong foundations. The discussion focuses on the importance of measurement, data quality, and realistic expectations, and why FinOps maturity takes time to develop.
Nicole also shares how unclear ownership, limited education, and misaligned behaviors often slow progress, and why FinOps should be treated as an ongoing operating model rather than a one-off initiative.
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00:00:04 – Intro and Welcome
00:01:59 – Introducing Nicole Boyd
00:02:52 – FinOps Maturity in the Industry
00:04:03 – Examples from the Field
00:05:39 – Defining Business Value
00:07:07 – Handling Abstracted Value
00:14:30 – Expanding FinOps to Other Services
00:22:01 – Total Cost of Ownership
00:25:51 – Data Collection for Cost Allocation
00:30:18 – Practical Steps for Maturity
00:30:18 – Learning and Communities
00:36:23 – Closing Remarks
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